Author Topic: 1955 Distributor Vacuum Controller  (Read 236 times)

Offline craig-o

1955 Distributor Vacuum Controller
« on: May 13, 2018, 08:53:04 AM »
Posted this on the CLC forum earlier with no luck, although less than 24 hours ago. Thought maybe the specialists on this forum might be helpful.

1955 Series 62 CDV with hesitation/stall on acceleration.  Tested the distributor vacuum controller, and it won't hold a vacuum, nor move the control arm.  This is probably the original part, and no surprise that it's failed after 63 years!

After searching for this part, I came up empty, but found 2 options for a rebuilder - Terrill Machine in Tx, and Margus in CA.  I imagine prying apart the controller is possible, but does anyone know if there is an available controller with a similar diaphragm diameter and armature?  Any Chevy/Buick/Olds/Pontiacs that are equivalent?  Mine has a Delco Remy part number 1116091.  Any cross-reference, or Is sending it out for a rebuild my only option?
Craig R
San Jose, CA
1955 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe deVille
1955 Jaguar XK140MC OTS

Offline South_paw

Re: 1955 Distributor Vacuum Controller
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2018, 09:16:57 AM »
Craig-O a while back a forum member rebuilt their Vacuum advance using the inner parts from a newer part. Calling @Agent86 pick up your shoe phone please. 
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Offline Agent86

Re: 1955 Distributor Vacuum Controller
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2018, 07:37:45 AM »
Some years ago I had a guy in Oregon rebuild my vacuum advance unit.  He also agreed to sell me some of the diaphragm material and for a few years I was rebuilding them at home.  It was fun and I was good at it (yes, that sound you hear is the distant toot of my own horn being tooted by myself).  Eventually, i ran out of the material.  One day, i needed to rebuild the vacuum advance one of the many cars I have had and bought a modern (some time in the 1960s!) vacuum advance unit from a parts store and took it apart to cannibalize it for the diaphragm, which I used in rebuilding my 50-something unit.  Probably not the way to do it, but hey, sometimes you have to be creative.


On my current 55 (the Blue Mistress), the vacuum advance is shot -- it has a dead vacuum leak in it and won't advance the timing at all -- I am sending the thing to Terrill Machine in TX to be rebuilt.
Art Gardner

Offline craig-o

Re: 1955 Distributor Vacuum Controller
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2018, 04:27:52 PM »
I had hoped that there might be a faster way than shipping it to Texas and waiting for 2-3 weeks, but it looks like that's the consensus.  Called Terrill Machine today; I'll pack it up tonight and mail it to them tomorrow.

Craig R
San Jose, CA
1955 Cadillac Series 62 Coupe deVille
1955 Jaguar XK140MC OTS

Offline D.Yaros

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Re: 1955 Distributor Vacuum Controller
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2018, 02:06:56 PM »
Have seen your post/thread on CLC.  There I noted a (Kanter?) rebuilt unit with exchange for sale at $108.  I used Terrill a few years back.  My recollection was the cost was less than that for the referenced rebuilt unit.   Is the Kanter part more or less than the cost for Terrill to do the rebuild?
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Offline craig-o

Re: 1955 Distributor Vacuum Controller
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2018, 11:12:47 PM »
Terrill is still charging $75 for the rebuild + $8 return shipping.
Craig R
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1955 Jaguar XK140MC OTS

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Re: 1955 Distributor Vacuum Controller
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2018, 03:27:55 PM »
And well worth every penny!
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Offline craig-o

Re: 1955 Distributor Vacuum Controller
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2018, 10:41:09 PM »
Terrill Machine turned it around in ~3 weeks.  When I called to get an ETA on my 1955 vacuum advance, they said “Is this Art Gardner?”  So there must have been a run on 1955 vacuum advance rebuilds!

Installed it today, and reinstalled the distributor.  After setting timing, she runs great!  Hopefully she’ll make it to Reno under her own power for Hot August Nights.  Now, onto repairing the AC so my wife will go with me.
Craig R
San Jose, CA
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1955 Jaguar XK140MC OTS

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Re: 1955 Distributor Vacuum Controller
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2018, 01:48:21 PM »
Terrill Machine turned it around in ~3 weeks.  When I called to get an ETA on my 1955 vacuum advance, they said “Is this Art Gardner?”

They asked because they knew; it is called Caller ID.
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Offline Agent86

Re: 1955 Distributor Vacuum Controller
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2018, 09:32:49 AM »
The Hydramatic should shift better now.  The Hydramatic often will shift poorly with a bad vacuum advance.
Art Gardner