Author Topic: Making progress on the '54  (Read 6736 times)

Offline JAG56Cad

Re: Making progress on the '54
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2018, 08:51:34 PM »
Bob,

I rebuild several rear í56 sockets for both tail and backup lamps.

The original tail light insulators have a prong extending a bit to hold the insulator inside the socket (if I recall correctly, I may need to check the storage cabinets to make corrections on the items below).    ;)

I did use the pig tails insulator you posted from eBay one thing I found with them is; the spring is a bit long so you need to apply more down force to twist the bulb, since the insulator does not have the prong to hold it inside it will extend close to the edge of the socket.

But overall they do fit the socket, now you know the cable for those were the cloth type you would need to clip the old ones over.

I may have more details for you tomorrow after I get a chance to check the ones I have in storage.
Jose Gomez
CLC Member #23082

Offline Lexi

Re: Making progress on the '54
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2018, 09:48:30 PM »
Thanks Lexi, that's might gracious of you. I would need the 2-wire socket that goes to the tail light. That 1-wire socket goes to the reverse light.

Bob you're right. I must be loosing my mind, wrong light. Will go back and see if the tail light socket is there. Clay

Offline Lexi

Re: Making progress on the '54
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2018, 10:35:02 PM »
Yes it is there. I drove the pivot pin out to gain better access to the rear of the socket assembly. Looks like a rubber grommet/strain relief holds the unit's wiring in place, where it passes through the pot metal housing. Would have to cut that strain relief to remove and hope the wiring with original cloth sheathing pulls out from the front. Not sure how this would pull out through the back as you noted, unless you separate the wires from the socket and remove that insulator. Don't want to foul it up so perhaps I can learn from your experience and you can advise on how to extract this without ruining it! Clay

Offline Lexi

Re: Making progress on the '54
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2018, 11:40:57 AM »
Robert got your message and replied via PM. Now I know why Cadillacs were so expensive back in the '50s. It must have cost GM a fortune to install these sockets! Clay/Lexi

Offline RobertM

Re: Making progress on the '54
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2018, 12:02:08 PM »
Lexi, got your pm. This is what I would need. No worry about the chrome bits. By the potmetal part. I meant the piece that holds the socket in place, where it screws to the assembly.
Bob Melms
'54 60S
'95 Sedan Deville
'99 Eldorado (RIP 2018)

Offline RobertM

Re: Making progress on the '54
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2018, 12:08:47 PM »
The taillights came out nice. Fresh chrome and I replaced the red lenses. I have 3 original lenses available if anyone needs one. They are solid with some crazing. Not sure how I ended up with the 3rd one. I was Ebay addicted a few years ago, getting ready for this project.
Bob Melms
'54 60S
'95 Sedan Deville
'99 Eldorado (RIP 2018)

Offline JAG56Cad

Re: Making progress on the '54
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2018, 12:12:27 PM »
Bob,

Here are the ones from the í56 which I refurbished for the tail and backup lamp (bag).

Iíve installed new sockets for the backup one and use the old and/or made new square frames for them.

The one on the middle is the old one that is badly damage but still has the insulator the two small spring on each wire are gone, Iíve highlighted the prongs that slide in the socket groves to hold it in place.

The two on each side are the one I was able to rebuilt with new insulator (from new tail light sockets sets I had) new small spring inside and new wires cloth cover for the left side and standard wires for the right side.

Iíve also reply to you PM, just let me know.
Jose Gomez
CLC Member #23082

Offline RobertM

Re: Making progress on the '54
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2018, 03:34:40 PM »
On another note, does anyone now if the trunk cardboard kit is the same for coupes and the 60S?  I had saved my old trashed trunk cardboard to try to use as a template to cut something new, but it seems to have grown legs and walked away from my basement. I have a bad feeling it is now at a landfill somewhere.

The only aftermarket kits I can find are for coupes.  I'm usually really good with the parts book, but it's hard to decipher what is what as far as trunk linings go. 34.9500 is sorted by color, so it must be just the carpet pieces.
Bob Melms
'54 60S
'95 Sedan Deville
'99 Eldorado (RIP 2018)

Offline David King

Re: Making progress on the '54
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2018, 04:00:17 PM »
You could check to see if karl at Original Leather Interiors, Inc. has the pattern for a kit.  He just did mine for the '55 Eldo.

Phone is (540) 980-7004‬

David
David King  CLC 22014 life member
Founder & Director of the Eldorado Brougham chapter
'55 Eldorado #266
'58 Eldorado Brougham #615
'59 Eldorado Brougham #56
'60 Eldorado Brougham #83

Offline Lexi

Re: Making progress on the '54
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2018, 05:57:23 PM »
Lexi, got your pm. This is what I would need. No worry about the chrome bits. By the potmetal part. I meant the piece that holds the socket in place, where it screws to the assembly.

Yes, there is a pot metal bracket that holds the socket in place. You can have that as well. I am still not sure how all this comes out. Jose mentioned two retainer prongs on each side of the socket. I guess they come off? One surely must cut at least one of the grommets to pull the assembly out? Yes? No? Clay